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 Age Discimination in Advertising
Author:RusRec
Date:Friday, 22nd Sep 2006 15:21
Views:7,021 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Standards and Reputation
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=3888

I have just come off the phone talking to two publishers regarding this legislation and its impact on recruitment advertising.

The background of the story is that a publication wants me to amend an ad that I am running. The role is a senior management position in Marketing, in a niche industry. The offending line is I stated I require a minimum of 5 years' experience. Apparently I am 'discriminating on age' as there might be someone with less experience who could do the job...my answer - b******ks! No-one with less than 5 years experience could even contemplate doing the role...it would be a total waste of everyone's time them even applying. However, that's not the point, I really don't care if they're 15 or 50, or 17 or 70, as long as they have 5 years' experience! Yet the publication has been told (by ACAS) that I am discriminating on age. I AM NOT!! I am discriminating on experience, the publication is not prepared to risk running the ad as is, as they would be liable, along with myself for prosecution. I pointed out that in the Employment Equality (Age) Regulations 2006 Regulation 3 Point 14 that there is a 'test' established in Law for 'proportionate' and 'appropriate & neccesary'. Specifying '5 years experience' would be (according to my interpretation) 'proportionate'.

It can be found here - http://www.dti.gov.uk/files/file27136.pdf

I am really interested in hearing other people's views on this. I think it is not unreasonable to specify number of years experience as otherwise am I going to be spending my time in court defending myself against 18 year old fast food counter workers who think they can be Marketing Directors and are arguing a case against me on age discrimination!!

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• Age Discimination in Advertising
I have just come off the phone talking to two publishers regarding this legislation and its impact on recruitment advertising. ...
RusRec 22/09/06 15:21 3888
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Well Grr...Agh, perhaps you are the discerning type of recruiter who actually takes the time to write the most detailed ...
Steve 11/12/06 16:17 5833
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
In respect Steve, it wouldn't matter how detailed a job description I wrote, with or without no. years experience, some ...
Grrr...Agh 11/12/06 15:07 5832
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
I am in firm agreement with Kim. What we’re talking about here is laziness on the part of recruiters when ...
Steve 11/12/06 14:39 5830
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
What is the position regarding past job titles on CVs? We provide specialised Well Engineers to the oil and gas ...
AJ 25/10/06 10:25 4838
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
It may be useful for all of you to have a look at the SFIA website. It's the way forward. ...
Greg 23/10/06 13:53 4746
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
I went to an REC seminar about this a couple of weeks ago - they said that although we can't ...
jojo 09/10/06 12:32 4416
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Isnt one relatively simple way round all this to be more specific in your job spec? Really detai lthe job ...
Kim 04/10/06 17:28 4308
    • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
We are in the same situation as Julie several posts up. About 6 months ago we started a new recruitment jobs ...
Darren Biggs 06/10/06 20:04 4375
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
There is a good article from the REC at http://www.rec.uk.com/rec/press-centre/2006-10-age-discrimination.aspx. It answers some of the FAQ about the new ...
Louise Triance 04/10/06 13:22 4295
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
It didn't take long. I heard on the radio on the way in to work this morning that the first ...
Tom Atkinson 04/10/06 09:09 4285
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
What a wonderful debate. Of course many of the points will remain unanswerable or simply be matters of opinion until ...
Tom Atkinson 03/10/06 13:47 4254
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
I feel the new legislation will make our jobs much harder - creating adverts within the new guidlines is the ...
Lucy 03/10/06 11:37 4249
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Hi All I'm a little confused about this. Surely if a candidate puts their DOB on a CV (which they all ...
Pooh 27/09/06 16:36 4052
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
I've been reading some very interesting posts on this subject and I can see that our lives are going to ...
Julie 27/09/06 15:04 4048
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
There are two key statements in the Employment Equality (Age) Regulations which apply largely to us: Firstly: Regulation 8. 3.1: Regulation 8 allows ...
Diesel 26/09/06 15:13 4015
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
I agree with Georgiegirl's sentiments. The legislation could bring huge benefits to businesses and recruiters who are stuck in their ...
Recruiter 26/09/06 14:17 4013
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Hi. Agree with previous postings that a radical rethink of the wording of adverts and presentation of CVs is required. ...
Georgie Girl 26/09/06 13:45 4010
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Thanks Tony Actually there is some good information on www.agepositive.gov.uk web site and of course with acas there is huge file ...
Jan Muir 26/09/06 12:29 4009
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As I thought an interesting debate. I would still maintain that by stating '5 years experience' in whatever field is ...
RusRec 26/09/06 14:09 4012
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Jan - I'm not a legal expert, but my understanding is that you can't put anything in an advert that ...
Tony Restell 26/09/06 10:28 4001
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
So, can I see a show of hands of how many of us are going to stop putting dates of ...
Gwhitey 26/09/06 08:58 3998
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Tony This is a disaster waiting to happen, in terms of RusRec's comments could he for example change the wording of ...
Jan Muir 25/09/06 18:23 3970
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
I agree this is farcical - and I read in the last week that this legislation will also mean that ...
Tony Restell 25/09/06 16:54 3963
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Hi all Interesting post with much to debate. I was listening to the radio this morning and a headhunter who phoned ...
Jan Muir 25/09/06 13:27 3956
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Hi, Doesnt this just prove what a total farse this new legislation is? How many of us will get caught out ...
TinaJ 23/09/06 00:26 3907
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Im afraid Rus Rec That Jo B is 1000% correct!
NKL 22/09/06 19:28 3895
  • Re: Age Discimination in Advertising
Hi RusRec Good post, but unfortunately the publication is correct. From 1st October adverts will need to be competency based and ...
Jo B 22/09/06 17:27 3890

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