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| Re: intimidation at work - help |
| Author: | Richard |
| Date: | Thursday, 29th Mar 2007 12:45 |
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D J
This is a clear case of bullying in the work place and to some extent you could have a case infront of an Employment Tribunal.
You only have to look toward the case proceeding against Prime Time Limited where an employee took offence to an e-mail forwarded to her.
Your line manager will be in breach of their contract for the derogatory conduct towards you (assuming there are policies and statements integrated into the contract that tackle this) - might be wise to read your own!
I recognise people are not as up front as me, but I would personally pull the guy to one side, lay the cards on the table and if he still doesn't play ball, escalate the issue through HR/etc. |
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| Re: intimidation at work - help |
| Author: | Dave |
| Date: | Thursday, 29th Mar 2007 13:17 |
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Sounds like my first experience of recruitment - this thing went on all the time and was to some extent the norm, but that was over 10 years ago.....
Things have moved on and it sounds like your manager is living in the past....you just cant do those things these days.....
My advice is follow the proper chain of command when you address this issue....if this manager is your first line of contact you must talk to them about it first, you need to formally ask for a meeting, then if the issues are not sorted start up the management ladder....You need to do this incase it does go to Employment Tribunal then you can prove you gave the company every opportunity to resolve.
I am aware you need to be careful when discussing this on the forum as well - if you need to discuss this further do not hesitate to email me direct, in confidence. |
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| Re: intimidation at work - help |
| Author: | Dean |
| Date: | Thursday, 29th Mar 2007 14:40 |
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I thought that practice had been eradicated from the industry. I know it was quite common 10years or so ago.
If the firm you work for is condoning this kind of practice then I would be seriously be concerned about the calibre of company you are working for and whether you should be working for them at all. They sound like cowboys to me and there are many professional agencies that don't employ these tactics.
As the other posters mentioned, you need to go through the chain of command. The only problem with this is that if you are on your probationary period then they are more likely to terminate your employment because generally during your probation period they can terminate without a reason.
Personally I would tell them to jam the phone up their arse.
What gets me is that they are a large, 'well respected' agency. If they are, they should have a dedicated HR dept. and you need to raise the issue with the HR Manager. Harassment in the workplace is illegal and a lawsuit could cost them thousands. |
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| Re: intimidation at work - help |
| Author: | Libby |
| Date: | Friday, 30th Mar 2007 12:44 |
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HI DJ
I went through this too when I started out in the industry 10+ years ago and it really shouldnt happen these days even though it is unfortunately still all too common.
I used to be an HR Manager so if you need any further advice on this then give me a shout.
For now though, your contract / enployee handbook should state the policy for raising a greivance. I would almost definately do this and take the first step of raising this with your line manager. If you dont feel comfortable doing that or he is the person bullying you (beleive me, you are being bullied) then raise it with his boss.
You will almost definately get some reaction from this and if its negative i.e they fire you or make matters worse then you have a case for constructive dismissal. If its a positive reaction then hopefully you will get some way to sort it out.
Whatever happens though, with some recruitment experience you WILL get another job with a decent recruitment company who wont treat you like this.
Good luck
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| Re: intimidation at work - help |
| Author: | mm |
| Date: | Wednesday, 4th Apr 2007 11:26 |
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sick, sick, sick.
I know it is sound advice to have a word with your boss, but after my boss a few years back in the old firm done similar things to me including lobbing stuff at me - I had a word and it didn’t end well!
I don’t think your boss sounds like the type of guy who will react calmly to you saying something and it might all end up in a massive confrontation!
if you have a word with him/her you might want to make sure someone else is around.
surely other people are about when he has done these things to you? have you spoken to them? does he do it to anyone else? is there someone above him/her present in the office that has seen this?
it's hard to say what is best to do. if you hand in your notice new employers are going to want a ref from your most recent - what are there policies on ref's? can they only give dates and job title or can they say anything?
It is best keeping a very detailed list of all of your achievements, how many calls you make, how much business you have won and so on - this will prove to all potential employers that you are not leaving because you can’t do the job. Also keep a detailed list of the events that occur with your boss dates, times, events, who else was around at the time - build a case against him and then present it to him and someone above that idiot!
Contact me anytime - I would always be happy to help you find a new position in a good company in recruitment with normal people!
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| Re: intimidation at work - help |
| Author: | sales manager |
| Date: | Wednesday, 4th Apr 2007 12:19 |
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well..............keep a log of every incident - date, time and what happened
Make a note if anyone else is experiencing the same behaviour or are you being singled out - this will add weight on a discrimination as well as a bullying charge
I agree although you must follow procedure, it is unlikely you will get a positive end result as the "manager" is obviously supported by his superiors unless they are deaf / blind / dumb and have no idea what is going on.................if it gets too bad, walk out and sue them for contructive dismissal depedning on your length of service
There is no minimum employment timeframe for bullying, racial or sexual discrimination so if any of these are the issue and you have only been there for a few months, you can still put a tribunal claim in - do NOT let them get away with it - these things give our industry (and sales in general) a bad name
***DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN ALSO CLAIM IN CIVIL COURTS UNDER THE HARRASSMENT LAWS SO YOU COULD CLAIM UNLIMITED DAMAGES IF SUCCESSFUL?!!!***
Leave and join someone more professional who will actually TRAIN you rather than try to beat success out of you
No confidence = no success = no sales and we as an industry could possibly lose a good player before their career even starts
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| Re: intimidation at work - help |
| Author: | Rec2rec bod |
| Date: | Wednesday, 18th Apr 2007 14:46 |
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DJ,
Feel free to contact me... no obligation whether you use me to get your next job or not... but that's the simple answer: Leave...
You don't need that sort of job... If you're right for recruitment - and it's a huge, broad church, capable of housing all types of individuals - you will get another job, either direct, or with a hand from a wise old owl like myself... the market is hugely candidate-driven... so here's the four letter word for the afternoon: WALK!
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