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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | Ruffski |
| Date: | Friday, 30th Jan 2009 12:47 |
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Hi John,
Welcome to the forums, I hope you'll find them as helpful as I have.
Supplying healthcare professionals can be a costly business as dependent upon the types of people you'll be supplying, you may find you need specialist insurances which will be costly. With respect to CRB checks, this can be a fairly simple and inexpensive process (Costs anywhere between £5 and £10 per check) and I'd recommend disclosures.co.uk as they are efficient, inexpensive and have proved to supply a quality service. Payroll will be the expensive thing, but you could look to a factoring business to get you off the ground and there is a regular poster on this site who really does know his stuff and has previously given superb and clear advice. His name is Tom Atkinson and he runs Cash Simply. I'd suggest you get in touch with him directly for an informal chat (If you need such services) See www.cashsimply.com for Tom's contact details. Please note that I do not work for Cash Simply, nor do I accept referral fees, I just feel they will offer honest and high quality advice.
Good luck with the new business!
Ruffski |
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | on my own |
| Date: | Friday, 30th Jan 2009 14:22 |
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Whilst I support anyone who wishes to set up an agency - setting up in healthcare or education is an extremely specialist sector. You should be talking to the specific REC group about this as the staff you are providing need to be checked and vetted to a very high standard. |
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | Greig |
| Date: | Friday, 30th Jan 2009 15:07 |
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Hi John. What area of healthcare and suppliers were you thinking about? As has been pointed out healthcare can be a difficult one to get into though it's a relatively consistent sector and there's always good demand.
Have you considered the social care side of things? There's always demand for the likes of social workers, OTs, drugs and alcohol workers and a lot of agency use with individual decision makers easier to reach and they seem to have more freedom.
Whatever you decide, best of luck with your new business.
Greig
TalentRevolt - UK IT, Engineering and Healthcare split fee recruitment exchange - http://www.talentrevolt.com
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | Greig |
| Date: | Friday, 30th Jan 2009 17:19 |
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Nursing homes are a good choice due to their high use of temps and demand - we're not getting any younger, but some of us age better than others :) It's worth thinking about the home care side of the market as there's increasing attempts to care for people in their own homes and it's
As has been suggested look at how you're going to fund your payments to temps. Tom at CashSimply is the resident guru on that subject. The other thing is just covering yourself insurance wise. They'll likely be working under the direction of an employer so it shouldn't be too costly. I've always had good quotes from Hiscox but I know some on here find them expensive so shop around and check out a few of the previous recommendations for insurance on here.
Again, best of luck and it'd be good to hear how you get on.
Greig
TalentRevolt - UK IT, Engineering and Healthcare split fee recruitment exchange - http://www.talentrevolt.com |
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | Laura |
| Date: | Friday, 30th Jan 2009 17:26 |
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Hi John
I worked in healthcare recruitment for over 4 years. The practice when I was in healtchare recruitment 2 years ago was the following:
For nursing home recruitment you will need to check with national care standards about requirements. You may also need enhanced crbs - best to check this out just in case. With regards to the people you are sending out it is best to get them to get liability insurance themselves, as temps it will be a case of checking them like any other candidate but they will need health and safety, manual handling and basic first aid experience. National care standards will check all candidates have this.
As I say it has been a while since I did healthcare recruitment but I expect if anything the rules have tightened, so I would definitely speak to national care standards first and foremost.
Best of luck
Laura |
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | Kelly |
| Date: | Friday, 30th Jan 2009 19:14 |
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Are you aware that you have to have a qualified nurse if you are supplying nurses even to interview your candidates (nurses, not care staff). I have had my own agency for 2 years and looked into this sector as an additional branch, with all the legal implications, cost involved and requirements I thought it wise to steer clear?
Do you have any recruitment experience? |
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | on my own |
| Date: | Tuesday, 3rd Feb 2009 09:42 |
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Claire, the REC is not the answer to everything and neither did I say that. In this case, it gives good info on what you need in starting up in this industry sector, and they can point you to other organisations such as CSCI. Its not just a case of banging some workers out into a care home. There are certain checks that must be completed to a very high standard as you are dealing with very vulnerable people. The OP will also be working with fully trained healthcare professionals and the quickest way for an agency to fail is to send unqualified, untrained, and unchecked staff into an organisation that relies on high standards of care. |
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | claire |
| Date: | Tuesday, 3rd Feb 2009 13:47 |
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dear on my own - didnt want to cause offence at all but just sick of eveyone saying REC this and REC that. They have done very little to help myself or many of the other agency owners I know who paid fees and got little value.I am experienced within the heathcare sector and know its not a case of just "banging some temps out"....
My advice overall would be not to venture into this area without knowing and having full experience of it - as you quite rightly say this is dealing with vulnerable individuals... |
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | John |
| Date: | Tuesday, 3rd Feb 2009 16:19 |
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Hi Everyone,
Thank you all for your valuable comments, for which I really appreciate.
As I am at the 'Consultation' stage of setting up an agency, and basically just getting feedback as to the pro's and cons of the industry, I thought I would clarify my position.
I have worked as a support worker for several years, working with adults with learning dificulties, but resigned as I wanted to persue a different career. I am aware that it simply isnt a case of just sending just anybody to a home as they will be caring for vulnerable adults, so there is a very high standard which an agency should work to.
I already have a network of people already working within care homes, or who are already working with agencies.
I also know a few people who own rest / care homes who have staffing issues, but do not want to rely on agencies all of the time due to the cost.
I am simply trying to solve the problems of 2 sets of people.
Care homes looking for affordable temp staff, as well as helping carers trying to get more work.
There are some areas which I neded clarification though. Is it nessasary to employ a nurse if supplying cares to nursing / rest homes?
Would it be nessasary for a nurse to interview candidates to gage their suitability for the agency to put them on their books?
Would an enhanced CRB be sufficiant in assuring care homes that the candidates are suitable for assigning to their home?
John |
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | Fiona Jefferies |
| Date: | Tuesday, 3rd Feb 2009 16:42 |
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hi john,
i've set up and managed a nursing agency before.
the first thing you will need to do is register with csci.
depending on which route you choose to take, the registration itself can be quite costly (for eg domicillaries over care staff more expensive)...re the other threads, you will only need someone at RGN status to interview staff if you intend to supply RGNs etc.
Care staff will need an enhanced crb and you will need to regsiter yourself as a signatory of these.
if your primary purpose is to bring the two sets of people together (and in your words cut back on agency fees) perhaps you could look at launching a job board, based on your geographical area and sector.
if you want to discuss the possibilities further, feel free to contact me here on via email.
fiona
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| Re: Starting An Agenmcy |
| Author: | Alison Kennedy FREC DipRP |
| Date: | Wednesday, 4th Feb 2009 16:02 |
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Dear John
The REC have a Business Support Service which may be of interest to you at this time.
We can offer you face to face and on-going recruitment specific support in the sector group you are looking to enter in to.
It may be that you just have a couple of questions which we can answer for you over the phone, however if you would be intersted in some more robust, long-term support, then I definitely feel that we would be able to assist you too.
If you would like to speak to us directly our number at the REC is 0207 009 2131 or 0207 009 2158.
We look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards
Alison Kennedy |
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