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| Re: ID Checking |
| Author: | Anna K |
| Date: | Monday, 9th Oct 2006 10:19 |
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OK, I know its strange to reply to my own thread.....
Since my first post I have looked into this further with the Dti who gave me the Immigration office employer's helpline.
The chap I spoke to was very helpful and told me that because I only do permanent recruitment (sorry, I should really have mentioned this earlier!) and I am not the employer of the candidate I actually have no legal obiligation to check the candidate's ID at all!! Apparenlty the legal onus rests soley with the employer.
I have decided to continue to ask for a copy of their ID at my end anyway (can't hurt) and continue to advise the client to make sure they check it as well but its comforting to know that in the unlikely event of a candidate pulling a sly one, or a misunderstanding about the candidate's status occurring, I am apparently not legally liable.
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| Re: ID Checking |
| Author: | Anna K |
| Date: | Monday, 9th Oct 2006 10:37 |
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OK I'm doing this again, you must think I am very strange talking to myself!!
However after I got off the phone to immigration and after I posted the above I then thought, hang on a minute, surely what the immigration guy said totally contradicts the recent employment regulations act?!!
So back I went to the DTI and this time spoke to someone in the employment ageny inspectorate who said that as long as I make reasonabel steps to check the ID of a candidate, and this can include accepting a scanned copy of a passport by email then as far as they are concerned I am doing the right thing!
So please ignore my 2nd post, we do still need to check IDs, but it appears that as far as the chap I spoke to at the DTi is concerned, if like me you are a permanent recruiter, working from home and not able to meet candidate's face to face, then a good quality scanned copy of a passport is in fact fine.
Phew...finally got a straight answer!
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| Re: ID Checking |
| Author: | Dean |
| Date: | Wednesday, 25th Oct 2006 17:11 |
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Hi Anna,
In actual fact the legislation states that you have to take reasonable steps to confirm the candidates identity. Yo have to remember that as recruiters, we are not Police Officers and therefore do not have the power to make people identify themsleves. If a candidate doesn't provide proof of who they are, what you need to prove is that you took all reasonable steps to obtain it.
What I normally do with every candidate is email them a request for identification. This way you have documented proof that you have taken all reasonable steps at your end. If the candidated still doesn't furnish you with their ID then that is their problem and not yours.
Regards,
Dean |
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| Re: ID Checking |
| Author: | Anna K |
| Date: | Wednesday, 25th Oct 2006 18:20 |
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Thanks Dean that's great advice, phew, glad someone replied , was going mad rambling away to myself :-)
Great minds think alike. After I first posted this message I gave it some more thought and set up a standard email on my recruitment system to use to request a candidate's ID. This should help document things at this end in the unlikely event of a problem in the future.
Thanks again and happy recruiting! |
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| Re: ID Checking |
| Author: | Tom Atkinson |
| Date: | Thursday, 26th Oct 2006 10:19 |
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Hi Anna, No apologies needed for your own reply. Writing a problem down is a well known way of beginning to understand and solve it. My daughter (a weird combination of musician/pyschologist/zoologist) drums it into me. Your self answering amused me and I thought of what we have built into our Operations Manual to help improve customer service and avoid customers wasting their time and getting irate on the telephone. On report queries (the most common) we ask for a copy of the report being queried and the query "in writing". Queries are reduced to virtually none and its avoids what follows - as an "example" - in the manual's text. I hope it amuses you:-
“I know you are querying the margin on a report Sir, and I am trying to help but is that the margin before or after fee? Before or after tax? Is that before or after NI Sir? And is that Employer’s or Employee’s NI? Before or after contractual adjustments Sir? And which week number Sir? Is that Tax week or calendar week Sir? I apologise that my first answer seemed silly and inefficient Sir but I foolishly thought you meant week number 25 this year!” So I have learned, always write your problem down. It always helps to define it and sometimes results in a solution. I hope it continues to work for you. |
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